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Monday, December 22, 2008

Great game continues; Round 3 of the neo-con agenda.

By
Talha Mujaddidi
Dec 13th 2008

Part 2

After 9/11 U.S started its crusade against the Muslim world. First round of this crusade started when U.S invaded Afghanistan, then later Iraq. After 9/11 U.S said that Al-Qaeda is the real culprit behind 9/11. U.S never presented any evidence against Al-Qaeda to any government or world body. To this date no evidence had been presented. Similarly U.S went to war with Iraq on a false pretext of Weapons of Mass Destruction. Ron Susskind’s book highlights the fact that highest authority in the British government knew that this was a false alarm operation.

U.S and Israel are together in this so called war against terror. Second round started when Israel was given green light to destroy Hezbollah in South Lebanon. After one month of intense fighting and using all the resources that they had except nuclear weapons, Israel was unable to crush Hezbollah. U.S tried to create a civil war inside Lebanon so that Hezbollah could be involved in fighting internally this plan also failed. After this, Israel pressurized the Bush administration to stop Iran’s nuclear weapons program militarily. U.S and Israel go about this issue in two separate ways. U.S does not want confrontation with Iran on this issue. U.S is not in a position to start a confrontation with Iran on this issue. Israel on the other hand wanted military solution to Iran problem. Israel even threatened unilateral strikes against Iran. This did not receive green light from Washington. Israel then turned to India, who was already a strategic ally of the U.S. The nexus of U.S, Israel and India is now turned against Pakistan. The targets as mentioned before are Pakistan’s nuclear program, ISI, army, then breaking up Pakistan into smaller pieces.

This is beginning of round three. After the breakup of Soviet Union Brzezinski, former National Security Advisor to Carter, and probably the shrewdest neo-con alive today came up with a plan. The plan was to control Middle East and Central Asia so that twenty-first century could be another American century. Brzezinski is not the father of neo-conservatism (that was Strauss), but right now the most influential neo-con. Some of the details of his plan are laid out in his book, “The Grand Chessboard”. In 2006, it started to become clear that the next U.S president could be someone who would be a handpicked brainchild of Brzezinski. This brainchild is none other than Barrack Obama. The Republican Party could only offer McCain as a presidential candidate; McCain did not even enjoy support of many republicans to begin with. On the Democrats side it was clear that Al Gore would not run, Kerry was labeled as a flip flop after 2004 elections, Howard Dean became the party chair. Hillary was the main candidate but she is not liked much by Israeli lobby in the U.S. Israel has still not forgiven Clinton for Camp David Accord. John Edwards, in my opinion was the best candidate of all the nominees, but again he has middle class roots, and would never become a puppet of Military-industrial complex of the U.S. Hence it came down to Obama, Brzezinski’s brain child. Obama himself mentioned clearly that in foreign policy matters he will consult Brzezinski regularly. What is the grand plan that Brzezinski has made? The main target is containment of Russia and China, followed by controlling the energy reserves of Central Asia and remaining part of Middle East. Recently we saw highlight of things to come, when limited conflict between Russia and Georgia broke out in August in South Ossetia. Brzezinski plan first calls for neutralizing Pakistan, so that in future there could be no threat from Pakistani nuclear weapons to either Israel or its new found love India. It’s interesting to note that recently different Israeli notables including former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said that Pakistan’s nuclear program causes great danger to Israel. Why? Pakistan’s nuclear weapons can only cause danger to Israel if In future it plans to threaten Pakistan. They tried to do that in ’84, when they along with India made unsuccessful attempt to bomb Kahuta Nuclear plant. In the new map of Middle East, Pakistan is supposed to be divided into at least three possibly four parts as per the U.S plan. A separate Baluchistan, N.W.F.P incorporated in Afghanistan, two parts of Sind, and left over Sind and Punjab.

The convergence of U.S and Indian designs are limited until this point only. After this things start getting ugly. The problem is clash of ideologies. U.S is following a completely capitalistic, imperialistic ideology. India is following an ideology that is neither compatible with capitalism nor with imperialism. Remember Nehru doctrine, India is not happy with U.S inter-mingling into India’s affairs either. It’s only that against Pakistan Indian and U.S designs converge. Recall when Nehru was Prime Minister of India and Pakistan joined Baghdad pact. At that time Nehru was angry and said that we don’t like the fact that Pakistan has called a greater power into this region, and as long as a great power player like U.S is involved in Pakistan-India disputes, India will not solve Kashmir dispute. India doesn’t want a bigger power player destroying its regional hegemony. As Obama has said clearly, almost words out of Brzezinski’s mouth that Pakistan is the target and it will be attacked by drones, air strikes, and if needed covert operations also will take place to kill terrorists. (Remember terrorist are the pretext U.S has been using in post 9/11 world to attack countries). Obama has also said that Kashmir dispute must be resolved and U.S will mediate in Kashmir dispute. This is where there is a clash between Indian and U.S strategic goals. U.S wants Kashmir to be an independent country. If Kashmir is independent nation numerous benefits can be obtained by U.S, first it will be foreign policy trophy for Obama, secondly then U.S will force Pakistan and India to sign a no war pact. Then India will be the big brother in this region. Pakistan will not have any use for its nuclear program, no need to maintain a huge army, so on and so forth. U.S wants NATO troops to be places in Kashmir, they want to control air fields there, for e.g. the one in Laddakh, they want to encircle China, and then send in militants to create problems inside western China, where there is a huge Chinese Muslim population. India can never allow Kashmir to be broken up; India’s main concern is to destroy Pakistan. U.S wants to align India against China but India wants to remain neutral in U.S conflict with Russia and China. India had a choice, to consolidate its relationship with Pakistan but it chose a difficult path. Iran offered that choice to India, Indian economy is in dire need of energy resources, Iran offered gas pipeline to India via Pakistan. U.S will not allow anyone to get a hand on oil and gas reserves of Middle East and Central Asia. India was pressurized by U.S to step back from that agreement; instead it was given nuclear energy deal. India will not survive without oil and gas. The primary battle in the world is for oil and gas. If Iran, Pakistan, India gas pipeline project would have gone through then these three countries would not have been fighting with each other in future. India’s 15% gas requirement would be coming through Pakistan. U.S doesn’t want that. Instead it has offered India the plan that once Baluchistan is broken up from Pakistan you can get gas from Baluchistan via its seaport Gwadar. At the same time the U.S can use Baluchistan to create trouble into Iran. Again I think it’s a bluff for the Indians I am sure that U.S will not allow anyone taking any energy resources from its control. But Kashmir issue still remains and there is no way India will agree to it. There’s also the problem of Myanmar, or Burma. It’s a country virtually cut off from the world only in touch with China. Myanmar has gas and some oil reserves. This is where in future conflict could arise, and China will claim stake in these reserves. Brzezinski wants to use Islamic militants to create trouble in Central Asian Islamic states. No wonder Saudi government is talking to Taliban trying to bring them together into Afghan government. Just like these militants were used in Afghan war against Soviet Union, Brzezinski wants to use them again against Russia and China. Once land link between Pakistan and China is cut off, Kashmir issue is resolved, and there is relative calm in Afghanistan, with Indian army troops maintaining law and order in Afghanistan affairs. The Islamic militants could be moved towards Central Asia. Under Brzezinski plan conflict between Russia and U.S is inevitable. The brilliant part of the plan is that Brzezinski wants Iran to join hands with U.S. This is not really an off the wall plan either. Iran until Khomeini’s revolution was staunch U.S ally. After the revolution in Iran, U.S created Iran-Iraq war that resulted in hostilities between Arab world and Iran. These hostilities remain to this day. Russia is a strong supporter of Iran now, Russia also uses, a port in Syria. Obama has said clearly that he wants to engage both with Syria and Iran. Russia is also watching all these movements very closely. Iran has applied to become a member of SCO group that consists of all former Soviet countries of Central Asia, Russia, and China. If that happens then U.S plan against Iran will suffer greatly. China has said that if conflict takes place between India and Pakistan it will support Pakistan without a doubt. Obama’s tenure in office will see more violence in South Asia and Central Asia. It’s not clear if Iran will accept U.S offer to join in against Russia, and Arab world. It’s not that simple! Khomeini was more than just a revolutionary leader; he was the great Imam for Iranian people. He called U.S the biggest devil on this earth and responsible for sufferings of the Muslim world. It’s not easy for Iran government to engage with the big devil again. But like any country the choices for Iran are limited too.

Coming back to Pakistan, our choices are extremely limited too. India has troops inside Afghanistan and more troops will be pouring in the coming days. U.S is also bringing in 20,000 more troops in Jan 2009 into Afghanistan. India has built a road network in Afghanistan that goes all the way to Iranian border. India and Iran have strong relations with each other. As long as the U.S and NATO supplies go to Afghanistan from Karachi port, Indian navy can’t do a blockade of Karachi. Iran has a port near Baluchistan border its Charbahar port. Iran’s Charbahar port will be useless if Gwadar starts functioning and the city starts flourishing, since Gwadar is located before Charbahar. Plus Gwadar is of prime interest to China. India has told the U.S that since your supplies are getting a beating in Pakistan, why don’t you let our ships take your supplies through Iran into Afghanistan? Since U.S ships can’t go into Iran’s port. This way U.S will not be dependent on Pakistan and Karachi, then Indian navy will be in a position to blockade Karachi. Then India will bring troops on to Pakistan-India border. At the same time India will be in a position to attack us from our western border as well, Afghanistan. India will not start a full scale war but its plan is to somehow gain control of Azad Kashmir. Once India has control of Azad Kashmir, U.S plan to make Kashmir independent can’t go through as the area will become more disputed than before. India will be in a much stronger position and U.S will be unable to control Kashmir. This scenario poses grave risk since in any India-Pakistan border conflict there’s no guarantee that full scale war will not erupt. Likewise there is no guarantee that full scale war will not result in use of nuclear weapons. As recently as yesterday, U.S Secretary of State Condi Rice has warned India again not to take any step that could lead to a full scale war between India and Pakistan. Will India listen to that advice? That remains to be seen. Condi Rice has told U.S Congress, in reply to a question asked by Sen. John Kerry ,that U.S has a contingency plan of securing Pakistan’s nuclear weapons if need be the details however can’t be discussed since they are classified. With Russia getting edgy because of U.S designs against it, and China vary of Brzezinski’s plan the world is back to pre-Second World War era.

At moment all is going well for U.S with regards to Pakistan. The country is under control as far as the U.S is concerned. One week before Shah’s downfall Iran was also under complete control of CIA. Then over night the country changed. My point is that U.S plan is playing with fire in South Asia and Central Asia, this region consists of regional powers like India, Pakistan who both have nuclear weapons, and there is Russia and China two greater powers, and Iran who is on the path to becoming a nuclear power. A wrong move by India, U.S itself, or any other country could start a regional conflict that could easily become a global conflict. We should remember that it’s not just U.S troops in Afghanistan, there are NATO troops there too, meaning that they represent different countries of Europe. Plus troops from Canada, Australia and some other smaller countries also present in Afghanistan. The problem is that U.S is not in any mood to leave Afghanistan. In fact it’s not in a position to leave Afghanistan even if it wants to since there is no end to this conflict in a meeting room. Just like the Soviet Union, U.S is realizing that when you go and occupy a sovereign nation you are in no position to negotiate with rebellious militants (Taliban). The only way out for U.S is to leave in disgrace and defeat like Vietnam but U.S is not willing to look down that line. It’s thinking in totally opposite direction to expand the conflict in this region even if it threatens a fourth world war.

Great game continues; Round 3 of the neo-con agenda.

By
Talha Mujaddidi
Dec 13th 2008

Point of this article is to identify some thought provoking points about the Mumbai attacks, with historical background. Then to focus on U.S, Israeli, and Indian assault against Pakistan. Then to focus on greater agenda that Uncle Sam has for this region.

Part 1
Analysis of the Drama

Now that the dust is beginning to settle down after the Mumbai drama it is time that I shed some relevant light on this topic. The problem with modern day media is that in times of security crisis, it becomes just an arm of a nation’s foreign policy. As far as Indian media is concerned it’s more than just an arm of Indian foreign policy, it’s their mouthpiece. India, we should all remember is nothing like U.S. Until early 90’s it was staunchly a socialist country. Everything was state owned. India was in Soviet Camp from the day one. Pakistan from day one was in U.S and British Camp. There is a huge difference in the mindset of people who grew up in Pakistan at the height of cold war then those who grew up in India. The point is that no matter what the world media tells us and what the Indian media tells us the mindset of average Indian is democratic but the mindset of their foreign policy is nowhere close to democratic. It is in fact, very conservative mindset and it is based on Chankya’s ideology. Who was Chankya? and what was his ideology? this is a long debate. The bottom line is India’s military establishment, their intelligence agencies, and their foreign policy is still working on Chankya’s ideology. The synopsis of that ideology is that all of India’s neighbors are its enemies and all of the neighbors of India’s neighbors are India’s friends. That’s why India has bad relations with Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal, Maldives and even Bhutan. India has always had very good relations with Afghanistan, Iran, and Russia. Chankya ideology also states clearly that India is the super power of the region (Bharat Mata), and all its neighboring countries are its proxies or satellites only. This is from where the rhetoric of regional economic block, regional zone and nefarious designs like that comes from. This understanding is very important before we move on to the Mumbai attacks.

When a terrorist attack takes place the first thing to ask is who is the target? Who benefits from it? Who is the net loser? and who gets to gain strategic objectives? The most important thing is how the entire scenario unfolds in a terrorist attack. As soon as the attacks took place entire Indian media, started saying that Pakistan is behind these attacks. This is not surprising; India has a history of pointing fingers at Pakistan. After Samjotha Express was burned, and 68 people were burned alive, mostly Pakistanis, they pointed the finger at Pakistan and ISI, it turned out the real culprits were their own splinter cell of Hindu extremist who had infiltrated into their intelligence agencies. Lt. Col. Purohit was the culprit who confessed masterminding the attacks; it’s extremely alarming that serving Indian army colonel who has worked for their intelligence agencies is involved in terrorist activities. The chief investigating officer was Haimant Karkare. Interestingly he was the one who was killed as soon as this drama started. What a perfect time to kill the man who is trying to catch a group of terrorist. When Indian Embassy in Kabul was bombed they pointed the finger to ISI, when asked for evidence they could not present any evidence. Talat Hussain of Aaj News presented concrete evidence in his show proving that Pakistan has nothing to do with this attack. Neither Pakistan nor any group from Pakistan could have been involved in this staged drama. His show is available on the internet and is a must watch. The entire drama is now unfolding and Indian media itself is exposing the flawed theories, and fake information that was given out. First the media said that Deccan Mujahedeen named group has claimed responsibility. All I can do with this regard is to quote Fareed Zakaria, editor of Newsweek International and Indian himself, he said that this is all baseless allegations, and Hyderabad Deccan has never produced any terrorist ever. As far as the Al-Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Tayyaba accusation goes, Christine Fair, a senior political scientist and South Asia expert at the RAND Corporation, was interviewed by several publications regarding the Mumbai tragedy and repeatedly stated, “There’s absolutely nothing Al Qaeda-like about it. Did you see any suicide bombers? And there are no fingerprints of Lashkar. They don’t do hostage-taking, and they don’t do grenades.”

Lashkar has always claimed responsibility for any attacks that they have done, and they have never attacked civilians. In 2001, after Indian parliament was attacked India started blaming Lashkar for the attacks but never came out with any evidence till this day. They blamed Lashkar for Samjotha Express but it turned out that their own extremist Hindus were involved led by Col. Purohit. Lashkar has been involved with fighting Indian army and police in occupied Kashmir until Musharraf put a stop to that in 2002. Since then Lashkar has been busy social activities. They worked the most in Kashmir area after the earthquake. During that time army medical corps of different countries was there working side by side Lashkar. American and Pakistani intelligence agencies have been keeping an eye on Lashkar's movement since then. In this circumstance it’s really difficult for Lashkar to organize any act of terror. Lashkar’s history also shows that it has only been interested in fighting for Kashmir cause. Indian public and their media are now realizing that Pakistan had nothing to do with these attacks and now people are voicing their opinions. Salman Khan, famous Bollywood star said that Pakistan had nothing to do with these attacks. “In an interview aired on CNN-IBN on Tuesday, December 8, Salman Khan slammed terrorists but defended Pakistan saying it too was a victim of terrorism.”Pakistan itself is in the grip of terrorism - Benazir Bhutto was killed, multiple attempts were made to assassinate President Pervez Musharraf's life, the Marriott hotel was blown up. "I don't read Pakistani news papers but when such incidents occur there; do they blame India for it? No."

The point to think about is what can Pakistan gain by organizing such attacks? Nothing. No political or strategic advantage at all. Our army is busy fighting Indian-CIA sponsored terrorists in our Tribal Areas. Our economy is in a bad shape, our government is unstable, and there are numerous issues within Pakistan, like law and order issue, judiciary issue. Pakistan cannot possibly gain anything by organizing such attacks. It’s interesting to note that as soon as the attacks took place India started by demanding Dawood Ibrahim, Chota Shakeel and Tiger Memon from Pakistan. Then all of a sudden this demand died down. Condi Rice came on TV and said that we have evidence that Lashkar is behind these attacks. Why did the U.S. take over the Indian demand to handover Dawood Ibrahim and co? Answer lies in Wayne Madsen’s analysis. Madsen is a journalist, and author. Madsen was in U.S Naval Intelligence then spent time in National Security Agency (NSA, the second most powerful intelligence agency in U.S). all in all he has twenty years of experience in intelligence affairs. “ The first question he raises is with respect to the so-called security-camera shot of the alleged terrorist, Qasab (the terrorist shown on TV repeatedly, who was wearing Hindu saffron band in his right hand, Its almost laughable, the entire footage that is!). “The angle,” Madsen argues, “is too narrow for a train station which would have a wider angle and be shot from higher up than the photo being shopped by Indian police.”
Dawood Ibrahim, one of the 20 fugitives on India’s demand list, is someone that Madsen too feels may be involved, however. But Madsen claims that India is trying to boost the Lashkar-e-Taiba’s involvement in the Mumbai attacks while downplaying the role of Ibrahim. The son of a Mumbai police constable, Ibrahim has informants and agents peppered throughout Indian police. Yet, Madsen states that “there is also evidence that rightwing Hindu elements of RAW were aware of Ibrahim’s hit on Mumbai beforehand but allowed it to play out in order to carry out a “soft coup” by rightwing Hindu nationalists against the Congress government of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

Madsen further makes the claim that more than one group may have been involved in the terrorism. On the one hand, Ibrahim and his group may have attacked the Oberoi-Trident and Chabad House, where large numbers of Israelis were present, who may have been working for the Russian-Israeli mafia that was poised to rival Ibrahim’s gangs in their drug and other smuggling operations. Chabad Houses, Madsen claims, have often been used as fronts for money laundering operations. Moreover, “the Oberoi hostages were shot in the back of their heads, a typical gangland execution method preferred by Ibrahim and not the firing squad method used by Lashkar,” Madsen explains.

Madsen also believes that some of the terrorists were Hindus, tipped off by RAW officials who sympathize with rightwing Hindus and who learned of the attack beforehand but did not act to prevent it. According to Madsen, the Hindu terrorists killed Hemant Karkare in “false flag” attacks later blamed on the Muslims. Madsen also believes that the photograph being splashed around in the media of one alleged Qasab
is actually one of the Hindu terrorist? According to Madsen, Ibrahim has ties that link him to some of India’s most prominent politicians and Bollywood stars, not to mention the extensive connections in Mumbai’s very corrupt police force. If Madsen is to be believed, Ibrahim was also an on-and-off CIA asset, and could potentially uncover very embarrassing ties to Langley”.

There are ample reports and news articles that can point out severe flaws in the entire drama that took place in Mumbai. Bottom line is that India is now in a position to gain upper hand and it has done so. First attempt was to start propaganda and media warfare against Pakistan. This failed miserably thanks to our media. Times of India, Hindu, and other Indian newspaper had to acknowledge that the Indian media onslaught was ripped apart by Pakistani media. Sadly, as always Pakistan has lost ground at the diplomatic front. This has been Pakistan’s failure since Tashkent Agreement. Pakistan always loses the battle at the diplomatic front. This is because of our incompetent, corrupt, sellout leaders and governments. With this background in mind it is important to realize the great game that is being played on in this region and in particularly in Pakistan. India had many things to gain from all this. They have cornered us diplomatically, they are pressurizing us militarily. They have the sympathies of U.S and the rest of the world. Out of 600 districts of India independence movement is going on in 208 districts. All the Eastern States from Assam down to Tamil Nadu are busy fighting for their independence. The Naxalite Movement going on in the seven sister states has been called the gravest threat to the Indian federation by Manmohan Singh. Extremist Hindus are on a killing rampage. Thousands of churches have been burned, not only is the violence directed towards Muslims, Christians, and other minorities but also Dalit, the low caste Hindus, themselves. These attacks put tremendous pressure on Congress government, and takes pressure off of BJP and its extremist parties.

What are the main objectives of India, Israel, and U.S? With regards to pakistan, these three countries form a nexus. They have common agenda for the most part. They want to finish off our nuclear program, disband our eyes and ears i.e. the ISI, break pakistan into three or four smaller parts since it is easier to govern a country with 180 million people if its broken down into smaller pieces, disband our army, make pakistan a satellite state of India, just like Nepal or Bangladesh. These are the real designs of U.S, Israel and India troika. These designs are not so hidden anymore either. Pakistan and Afghanistan are already part of Middle East in the new Middle East plan that U.S is working on since 9/11. At the turn of the twentieth century during the first and Second World War periods, and between the world wars, the British Empire drew maps of all the countries in the Middle East and most countries in Africa. U.S now wants to change this map again in order to consolidate its position in Middle East, and Central Asia. Hence the term ‘redrawing the map of middle east’ is used by Western think tanks again and again.

India is now a strategic ally of U.S. India is moving its troops into Afghanistan, so that it can corner Pakistan from both fronts. U.S wants India to move its troops into Afghanistan so that they can support U.S and NATO troops in the war against Taliban. Intelligence agency for any country is the first line of defense. It’s the eyes and ears without which any military force can’t function. All western and Indian propaganda against ISI are baseless and ridiculous. All officers of ISI are taken from the armed forces. There can be no political appointee. Where as RAW, in India has political appointees, during the last BJP government there were many political appointees in RAW. Once ISI disbanded our nuclear weapons will be compromised, and Pakistan will be a walk over for Indian military. The important thing to keep in mind for all those pacifist, candle light vigilantes, is that peace process between India and Pakistan only started after Pakistan became a declared nuclear power. That is when India understood that war between two nuclear power countries cannot be thought about. That’s when confidence building measures, trade links, cultural exchanges, sports, etc, took place. As long as Pakistan was not a declared nuclear weapon state India maintained a threatening attitude towards Pakistan. Without nuclear weapons I can say confidently that India will leave no chance to annihilate us. The problem with Western experts on South Asia is that they don’t understand the dynamics of Pakistan – India conflict. The root cause of conflict between Pakistan and India is that of Kashmir. Without the resolution of this conflict permanent peace between India and Pakistan cannot be achieved. There is peace in Europe today because they have resolved their problems and disputes and all countries treat each other with equal respect. Not to forget that two brutal world wars were fought in Europe that completely devastated Europe. After such devastation Europe got together and realized that mutual peace is must for coexistence. Peace between two countries can only be on equal terms. U.S and Soviet Union were able to co-exist because both had nuclear weapons. It’s not possible that Pakistan as a country is allowed to be destroyed while India remains intact and remains prosperous. When experts come on TV they say that extremist on both sides don’t want peace. This is utter rubbish. Only extremist in India don’t want peace with Pakistan! Why? Because in order for Pakistan and India to have lasting peace Kashmir dispute must be resolved according to the wishes of the Kashmiri people. Does anyone in Pakistan not want resolution of Kashmir dispute? No. Is there anyone in India who doesn’t want resolution of Kashmir? Yes, their military establishment, their foreign policy establishment, BJP led extremist parties, and majority of the Indian people. Why do they not want the resolution of Kashmir dispute? Firstly they call it their internal issue and say it is our ‘Atut Tang’. Secondly, there are so many independence movements going on inside India that they can’t afford setting an example of Kashmiri independence. Recall that India functions on Bharat Mata ideology and they will never give up Kashmir. Everyone in Pakistan is ready for resolution of Kashmir dispute so it’s baseless to say that hawkish elements in Pakistan do not want good relations with India. RSS, Bajrang Dal, Shiv Sena, and even members of BJP have openly said again and again that Pakistan must be destroyed. These are not just small groups; these parties have formed government in India. There are no groups in Pakistan that have ever called to destruction of India. Only group that has called for destruction of India is Hizbut-Tehreer, which is based and operates from U.K, and has not been added to the list of terrorist organizations by Britain.